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Sparticus (04/05/2008)
I think the first warning sign was their "clause" at the bottom of the homepage...
"...IF YOU ARE BUYING A RITUAL JUST TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND THEN TRY TO RETURN IT, THEN YOU HAVE COME TO THE WRONG PLACE. ABSOLUTELY NO REFUNDS OR EXCHANGES WILL BE GRANTED. MAKE SURE YOU WANT WHAT YOU ARE BUYING. WE WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING OR JUDGMENT ON A RITUAL KIT. ALL THESE RITUALS LISTED ON THIS WEB SITE ARE PERFECTLY EXPLAINED OUT, WHAT THEY COME WITH AND WHAT THEY DO..."
Principissa (04/05/2008)
Exactly what type of ritual are you looking to do? Please let me know as I may be able to help you. If it was for revenge, love, or money, I cannot. Most ritual kits are a scam, if you really want to perform a ritual you are best off going to an eclectic store or buying a book and doing it yourself.
PassingBy (04/05/2008)
It's also very clearly stated well above the clause that no refunds or exchanges will be granted. One would have to be blind not to see it. I must say they are being honest by stating their policies upfront and in plain language.
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
Why doesn't people know the difference between "Except" and "Accept"? "We now except personal or business checks"
Anyway...
The reason places like this does NOT take returns is because once these items are placed in another's hands, they can not re-sell them...they will have the vibes of that person on the items (voodoo dolls, etc)...also, they will not take returns on items such as spell rituals because people can actually USE the information, then return it for their money back...kinda like opened computer software. I do know what I'm talking about, being involved in this type of practice myself. Even when I do card readings, no one e... more >>
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
OH...and personally I don't feel this is the kind of stuff a person can "learn from book"..I think people need to be born with the power. In my case, the powers go back in generations and they have all practiced it. Those who learn from a book is only going through the motions. JMO.
Slimjim (04/05/2008)
wow
old fart (04/05/2008)
Basher... If I have you do a lottery winning ritual for me do you think you can conjure up a winner for me..?
if it's anything over a million I'll get you 10%
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
Old F...I can provide you with YOUR lucky numbers...but it's up to you to play them on the right day
old fart (04/05/2008)
Lay 'em on me... I figure that if I play them and pray constantly without taking a break except for food and potty time, eventually something good will happen..
Principissa (04/05/2008)
DB I so agree with you. People think that these rituals and spells work for everyone and they don't. When it comes to magick, you either have the ability or you don't. It's not something that you acquire overnight.
old fart (04/05/2008)
If I go to the first ward in Saginaw and buy a "money bringing candle", that might increase my odds also..
old fart (04/05/2008)
Ladies... forgive me for being just a teeny bit sceptical but the only spell I found that actually works is this one... "the harder I work, the luckier I get"...
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
To The Poster...why do you call the website a fake? What was wrong with what you ordered that made you want to return it? As said previously, the site seems to be upfront about what to expect from them. Did the ritual not work for you? Are you experienced working with rituals? We need some more info other than they are "Fake".
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
Old F...this is more about the powers of black magic and rituals, not just about money. I don't do "money" rituals. I don't know what the poster's wish was or what was expected...but as far as performing spells, black magic, card readings and even white magic etc. there are prices to pay if you're just playing with it and not taking it seriously. People always tell me if I know the lottery numbers, why am I not rich...but you don't use this to obtain monies for yourself. People (like myself) who does card readings, can not read their own...why? Because knowing the meaning of the cards, you can influence the cards to read what you want to hear... more >>
old fart (04/05/2008)
Precisely my point Basher... If you perform the rituals and spells for ME and not you maybe it would work...that way you wouldn't be trying to get money for yourself.
No harm, no foul, right?
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
I will IM your lucky number to you.
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old fart (04/05/2008)
me Lids... me...
Lidman (04/05/2008)
Slim, I voted you (Best Answer)
Of course now they will put a spell on me!
OH! Where to hide....
old fart (04/05/2008)
Basher.. where are the numbers you promised?
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old fart (04/05/2008)
Lids... like I said... later this month I'm going to wait for the full moon, strip naked, smear myself with blood and chicken feathers and dance around the pine tree in the front yard, muttering incantations..
I figure that it can't hurt and maybe will help...
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
And those in Saginaw will say.."Now THERE goes the neighborhood"...and they will ALL arm themselves with guns! Of course, it just might scare off the thugs! LOL!
old fart (04/05/2008)
That "would" probably change my luck... pretty quickly I'd be sitting in the back seat of a sheriff's car, handcuffed and bound with a sheet wrapped around me..
Like the girls said, big JU-JU can have unexpected consequences..
old fart (04/05/2008)
Basher... that wouldn't scare off the thugs so much as it would evacuate the neighborhood..
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old fart (04/05/2008)
I bet it would get a bunch of hits... a 68 year old polack bouncing around in circles, buck naked hoping for "the big score"...is that a picture you can take to bed with you Basher?
Ponie (04/05/2008)
On a couple of occasions, for a fun thing, I've attended card reading parties friends have held. They brought in a 'reader' (is that what they're called?) who took a try at each of us. I'm still waiting for the windfall of $$$ they promised me. The only money I got was not having to supply my own snacks and 'beverages' served at the party. But to spend FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS for this stuff? Lady, get a life. Give that money to a deserving charity if you have so much to fritter away on nonsense.
Lidman (04/05/2008)
Ponie, that is very good advice I hope the op takes it!
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
Ponie...that's one of my points...people who does these types of parties do it "For entertainment purposes"...they pick up a book and memorize it...they have no abilities whatsoever to do actual readings. I wouldn't give a quarter for a reading from those people.
Ponie (04/05/2008)
No, DB. They were not people who picked up their knowledge from a book--although I certainly couldn't prove that. As a result of these get-togethers, some of the people present continued going for private 'readings. (I hope I'm using the correct terminology.) The 'readers' had been in business for some time and the host/hostess of the parties were regular clients of theirs. I personally would spend my money on what I consider more worthwhile endeavors, but that's just me. OTOH, it's websites like the complaint listed here that keeps our economy going. Everybody makes money. JMHO.
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
I meant those many of those that does these parties are mostly just memorizing from a book. They don't have any physic powers and they make a living "entertaining" people. They also have ways of getting people to continue coming to them by stating they have more "work" to do for them and charge them up. Now, if the readings those people did were actual readings and was accurate with what they said, then they may be in the few that are real.
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
As a matter of fact, Old F...I do believe that I DO have a picture of that....let me check the M3C Family Photo Album! LOL!
Mrs. V (04/05/2008)
I'm a solitary in the craft. I've learned mostly from a teacher a very long time ago (practicing for over 29 years, now).
I have also learned a great deal from books. It is all in how you apply yourself.
I've never really trusted buying a ritual online. It just doesn't seem right to me.
Where is the time and effort? Where is the pride and joy of a job well done? Not to mention, all the silly things that just don't work, or worse yet, work 'not' in the intended way.
I think the first warning sign was their "clause" at the bottom of the homepage...
"...IF YOU ARE BUYING A RITUAL JUST TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND THEN TRY TO RETURN IT, THEN YOU HAVE COME TO THE WRONG PLACE. ABSOLUTELY NO REFUNDS OR EXCHANGES WILL BE GRANTED. MAKE SURE YOU WANT WHAT YOU ARE BUYING. WE WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING OR JUDGMENT ON A RITUAL KIT. ALL THESE RITUALS LISTED ON THIS WEB SITE ARE PERFECTLY EXPLAINED OUT, WHAT THEY COME WITH AND WHAT THEY DO..."
Principissa (04/05/2008)
Exactly what type of ritual are you looking to do? Please let me know as I may be able to help you. If it was for revenge, love, or money, I cannot. Most ritual kits are a scam, if you really want to perform a ritual you are best off going to an eclectic store or buying a book and doing it yourself.
PassingBy (04/05/2008)
It's also very clearly stated well above the clause that no refunds or exchanges will be granted. One would have to be blind not to see it. I must say they are being honest by stating their policies upfront and in plain language.
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
Why doesn't people know the difference between "Except" and "Accept"? "We now except personal or business checks"
Anyway...
The reason places like this does NOT take returns is because once these items are placed in another's hands, they can not re-sell them...they will have the vibes of that person on the items (voodoo dolls, etc)...also, they will not take returns on items such as spell rituals because people can actually USE the information, then return it for their money back...kinda like opened computer software. I do know what I'm talking about, being involved in this type of practice myself. Even when I do card readings, no one e... more >>
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
OH...and personally I don't feel this is the kind of stuff a person can "learn from book"..I think people need to be born with the power. In my case, the powers go back in generations and they have all practiced it. Those who learn from a book is only going through the motions. JMO.
Slimjim (04/05/2008)
wow
old fart (04/05/2008)
Basher... If I have you do a lottery winning ritual for me do you think you can conjure up a winner for me..?
if it's anything over a million I'll get you 10%
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
Old F...I can provide you with YOUR lucky numbers...but it's up to you to play them on the right day
old fart (04/05/2008)
Lay 'em on me... I figure that if I play them and pray constantly without taking a break except for food and potty time, eventually something good will happen..
Principissa (04/05/2008)
DB I so agree with you. People think that these rituals and spells work for everyone and they don't. When it comes to magick, you either have the ability or you don't. It's not something that you acquire overnight.
old fart (04/05/2008)
If I go to the first ward in Saginaw and buy a "money bringing candle", that might increase my odds also..
old fart (04/05/2008)
Ladies... forgive me for being just a teeny bit sceptical but the only spell I found that actually works is this one... "the harder I work, the luckier I get"...
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
To The Poster...why do you call the website a fake? What was wrong with what you ordered that made you want to return it? As said previously, the site seems to be upfront about what to expect from them. Did the ritual not work for you? Are you experienced working with rituals? We need some more info other than they are "Fake".
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
Old F...this is more about the powers of black magic and rituals, not just about money. I don't do "money" rituals. I don't know what the poster's wish was or what was expected...but as far as performing spells, black magic, card readings and even white magic etc. there are prices to pay if you're just playing with it and not taking it seriously. People always tell me if I know the lottery numbers, why am I not rich...but you don't use this to obtain monies for yourself. People (like myself) who does card readings, can not read their own...why? Because knowing the meaning of the cards, you can influence the cards to read what you want to hear... more >>
old fart (04/05/2008)
Precisely my point Basher... If you perform the rituals and spells for ME and not you maybe it would work...that way you wouldn't be trying to get money for yourself.
No harm, no foul, right?
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
I will IM your lucky number to you.
Comment(s) removed: Please be respectful of other members
old fart (04/05/2008)
me Lids... me...
Lidman (04/05/2008)
Slim, I voted you (Best Answer)
Of course now they will put a spell on me!
OH! Where to hide....
old fart (04/05/2008)
Basher.. where are the numbers you promised?
Comment(s) removed: Please be respectful of other members
old fart (04/05/2008)
Lids... like I said... later this month I'm going to wait for the full moon, strip naked, smear myself with blood and chicken feathers and dance around the pine tree in the front yard, muttering incantations..
I figure that it can't hurt and maybe will help...
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
And those in Saginaw will say.."Now THERE goes the neighborhood"...and they will ALL arm themselves with guns! Of course, it just might scare off the thugs! LOL!
old fart (04/05/2008)
That "would" probably change my luck... pretty quickly I'd be sitting in the back seat of a sheriff's car, handcuffed and bound with a sheet wrapped around me..
Like the girls said, big JU-JU can have unexpected consequences..
old fart (04/05/2008)
Basher... that wouldn't scare off the thugs so much as it would evacuate the neighborhood..
Comment(s) removed: Please be respectful of other members
old fart (04/05/2008)
I bet it would get a bunch of hits... a 68 year old polack bouncing around in circles, buck naked hoping for "the big score"...is that a picture you can take to bed with you Basher?
Ponie (04/05/2008)
On a couple of occasions, for a fun thing, I've attended card reading parties friends have held. They brought in a 'reader' (is that what they're called?) who took a try at each of us. I'm still waiting for the windfall of $$$ they promised me. The only money I got was not having to supply my own snacks and 'beverages' served at the party. But to spend FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS for this stuff? Lady, get a life. Give that money to a deserving charity if you have so much to fritter away on nonsense.
Lidman (04/05/2008)
Ponie, that is very good advice I hope the op takes it!
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
Ponie...that's one of my points...people who does these types of parties do it "For entertainment purposes"...they pick up a book and memorize it...they have no abilities whatsoever to do actual readings. I wouldn't give a quarter for a reading from those people.
Ponie (04/05/2008)
No, DB. They were not people who picked up their knowledge from a book--although I certainly couldn't prove that. As a result of these get-togethers, some of the people present continued going for private 'readings. (I hope I'm using the correct terminology.) The 'readers' had been in business for some time and the host/hostess of the parties were regular clients of theirs. I personally would spend my money on what I consider more worthwhile endeavors, but that's just me. OTOH, it's websites like the complaint listed here that keeps our economy going. Everybody makes money. JMHO.
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
I meant those many of those that does these parties are mostly just memorizing from a book. They don't have any physic powers and they make a living "entertaining" people. They also have ways of getting people to continue coming to them by stating they have more "work" to do for them and charge them up. Now, if the readings those people did were actual readings and was accurate with what they said, then they may be in the few that are real.
DebtorBasher (04/05/2008)
As a matter of fact, Old F...I do believe that I DO have a picture of that....let me check the M3C Family Photo Album! LOL!
Mrs. V (04/05/2008)
I'm a solitary in the craft. I've learned mostly from a teacher a very long time ago (practicing for over 29 years, now).
I have also learned a great deal from books. It is all in how you apply yourself.
I've never really trusted buying a ritual online. It just doesn't seem right to me.
Where is the time and effort? Where is the pride and joy of a job well done? Not to mention, all the silly things that just don't work, or worse yet, work 'not' in the intended way.
